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I > IBM  > PS/2 Model 25


 

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Monday 5th June 2017
Kris

Can anyone out there tell me what ic''s I need to get to do I ram upgrade for my 8086 model 25. I have the parity ram in the slots but I''m missing the 6 chips that are located near the bios and rom


Sunday 28th February 2016
Shawn

@ larry you need a reference disk the internal battery died and it does not know it has a hard drive installed with out that reference disk you can down load them for free on the internet


Monday 7th September 2015
Rob T.

@Larry (USA): Press Alt and then use the arrow keys to navigate to Exit if you are in QBASIC.

If you are in standard BASIC, type ''SYSTEM'' and press return (i think?).


Monday 7th September 2015
Rob T.

I have a Model 55 I recently picked up from Ebay and got working with 16 bit color 640x480 on Windows 3.1. Got a 12 GB ide HDD to work albeit only 2 GB available and got an Acer CDRW to work with some very off the wall Panasonic drivers.

Plans are to pick up an ISA Ethernet card and upgrade the CPU to a 86 MHz Pentium OverDrive and 128 MB RAM.

For those that aren''t aware, you can actually upgrade the VRAM for the Cirrus Logic video accelerator as well, these Model 55s were surprisingly robust compared to all the other models. Anyone needing advice or assistance with locating drivers (except sound) can email me if you''d like.


Friday 5th June 2015
Larry (usa)

I have a model 25 that loads Basic at the end of it''s boot-up and I can not figure out how to close Basic and get to a DOS prompt. The unit has a hard-drive and a 3.5 floppy (720 or 1.44?) . Has anyone dealt with this issues?


Saturday 27th December 2014
Chris (USA)

The model 25 also came in a 286 version with IDE AND there was ALSO a Model 25SX that came with a 386 processor, VGA and IDE. I have both the Model 25sx with 12 meg memory and 8 gig storage on compact flash with sound card and the Model 25 286 with a sound card and hard drive. Both of these are in the all in one design shown above and the 386 sx version is thought of to be very rare.


Sunday 5th October 2014
rob (usa)

i recently saved one of these from the trash its a model 55sx but sadly the dallas clock battery is dead causing it to lose its cmos settings which requires a reference disk to fix i removed the old clock battery untill i could get a replacement but the computer shows no image on the screen with out it installed and i can no longer find the old one


Sunday 5th October 2014
rob (usa)

i recently saved one of these from the trash its a model 55sx but sadly the dallas clock battery is dead causing it to lose its cmos settings which requires a reference disk to fix i removed the old clock battery untill i could get a replacement but the computer shows no image on the screen with out it installed and i can no longer find the old one


Sunday 5th October 2014
rob (usa)

i recently saved one of these from the trash its a model 55sx but sadly the dallas clock battery is dead causing it to lose its cmos settings which requires a reference disk to fix i removed the old clock battery untill i could get a replacement but the computer shows no image on the screen with out it installed and i can no longer find the old one


Thursday 25th September 2014
Lee (USA)

The school I have worked at for the last 16 years has a number of these that I have stored in a closet. Also Model 25SX $ Model 30/286''s and some others. I pulled this one out this week (9/2014) hoping to put it on display for the kids to see, plugged it in along with a matching IBM keyboard and it fired right up! Has a 20G Hard drive in it and came right up to the C:$ prompt. This is the way IBM used to build equipment!!


Wednesday 18th June 2014
Wyatt

I saw one of these in a local electronics repair store today - it''s had the same image on it''s screen every day for the last year, which is sad - it''s probably badly burned in. But it was missing the classic keyboard - it had a HP keyboard in its place. Whoever sold the computer to them had decided wisely to keep the keyboard for himself. I have one of the keyboards too - the keyboard is great, but I would have liked to have the computer, to go with it.


Tuesday 18th December 2012
Karns (USA)

I just got one of these cool little computers. I had one when i was a kid, but didn''t understand DOS at the time. It then had other issues with the monitor, and unfortunately it met it''s demise. The one i just got runs perfectly fine. though it needs a few cosmetic things like drive covers.. etc.


Wednesday 28th December 2011
Jeff

This was the first computer I ever owned. I bought it used in 1990. I had the 001 type and I just loved it. Others have mentioned it was built like a tank, and I concur. I loved the curly cord from the keyboard to the unit$ great for moving around and getting comfortable. I really miss it$$there was something calming about its simplicity and friendly look.


Wednesday 21st December 2011
Fireb0y (Spain)

These machines have the longest and toughest keyboards of all time, the MODEL-M IBM PS2 Keyboards. They are supposed to support by a million or more strokes, each key! Personally I have 2 of these, and work flawlessly even they have suffered moisture, almost all type of liquids, etc... They are so indestructible and reliable! And the typing is really a must, it''s a somewhat mechanical sense, that gives a special feel that no other keyboard can offer.


Wednesday 28th September 2011
Dave

The PS/2 Model 25 if it is only an 8086 would not run OS/2. OS/2 required at least an 286 processor or later. This would have been a dos only machine.


Wednesday 27th April 2011
Tara (USA)

Tough machines? I''ll say so. I just literally found one that had been sitting outdoors under a trailer for god knows how long- YEARS. and exposed to a small amount of snow, rain, weather, extreme cold etc.. I plugged it in and the damn thing worked! I think the floppy drive is frozen though, and I don''t have a keyboard for it, but it goes through the memory and then asks for a keyboard or something. They don''t make them like they used to!!!


Friday 15th April 2011
Mike (USA)

I have the Model thirty, 16 mb ram took from mac lc, 80 mb hd, windows 3.11 wfw dos 6.22, bunch of games, came from a school, 1993 is the yr, has the front bezel for volume up/down and 2 headphone ports. can add cd rom, or a big floppy drive, and it can run windows 95, thats the highest it can run, but forget 95, old dos games baby!! lol.
saved it from someone that likes to destroy crap. i love old computers, i think sometimes they outlast these new ones.


Monday 17th January 2011
YO (US)

Still have one of the later type 4 models, still works, had to replace the HD. Runs Win 1.4x w/color and Sound! Fancy.


Wednesday 12th January 2011
chichi (US)

still have a working one. 8086 processor... runs windows 1.x in mono.

Does have color, and floppy and a 20mb hard card.


Wednesday 4th August 2010
Markus (Germany)

Right, a PS/2 Model 25 (and they had an Intel 8086! check Wikipedia) was unable to run Win 3.1 because of the processor. Windows 3.0 was the last Windows to be compatible with the i8086.
The PS/2 Model 25 and 30 came with PC-DOS 3.3, every other PS/2 came with OS/2, but the Model 50 was free to run DOS 3.3 also because OS/2 was finished a bit later.


Tuesday 30th June 2009
Roel Vossen (USA)

I used to own one and I''m really sure it had a 286 processor.


Tuesday 9th December 2008
Leland (USA)

When I got ahold of this system years ago it had a 286 CPU socket but with some 3rd party 286 to 386 DX CPU. Also the system had a Kingston memory board with what looked like a 72pin stick of 4MB. Sadly I couldn''t get the system up and running due to no internet access to download the setup floppy and the IBM tech support were no help.

Also up to last year the local Publix used these systems as their Point of Sale system.


Sunday 7th December 2008
PoopskinTheLiar (Za Warudo)
PTL''S Hq

Why is there no section for the PS/2 p70?!
I have a p70, it''s a very well built machine, aside from the odd positioning of the floppy drive...


Monday 19th May 2008
Brandon

These machines can NOT run Windows 3.1. Only Windows 3.0.. (there is a big difference actually, different kernel, different running modes).

I tried to send old computers, pics of this machine, but they aren't responding. So here's links to pics I took. I got Win 3.0 running in high res with 16 shades of grey due to a VGA card I installed (some modding required). Also replaced the CPU with a V30, to get that VGA driver to even work, and for faster speeds.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v395/Evilweredragon/m25/1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v395/Evilweredragon/m25/2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v395/Evilweredragon/m25/3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v395/Evilweredragon/m25/4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v395/Evilweredragon/m25/5.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v395/Evilweredragon/m25/6.jpg

And the quality of the CRT (my car picture): http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v395/Evilweredragon/car.jpg


Tuesday 23rd October 2007
Ryan V. (USA)

I used to have one of these computers... Although I was very young... I remeber running windows 3.11 on it (Barley)... It also had a mouse and a hard drive cant remeber how big it was though I think 20mb or something like that....


Sunday 21st October 2007
pip (AL)

did these machines come with os2 or dos


Tuesday 18th September 2007
David Whitcomb (USA)

These machines were all over my elementary school while i was attending. throughout the time i was there, i saw the flexibility of these machines first hand, they went from OS/2 to some DOS SHELL, all the way up to Windows 3.1 Thinking back, i also recall this machine being one of the first to promote the TokenRing topology networking.


Wednesday 11th July 2007
Ed (Portland, OR, USA)

Memory: We had these systems setup in highschool (Portland, OR) and were used as word processors, etc. I was able to get access to be able to do some BASIC programming and had fun. All proprietary PS/2 style hardrives, floppys (that I remember, etc). Was also used as an electronic "card catalog" in the library.


Tuesday 19th June 2007
Robert Talada (USA)

If I remember correctly, this was my first computer, discarded from the elementry school in the early nineties. It came with a 486DX (running at I think 75 MHz) processor and it's sound card was wired directly to the system speaker in the front panel of the computer. It had an 800 MB HDD and a quad speed CD-ROM Drive. This leads me to believe that I had the Model 30. I remember installing windows 95 on it and my friend laughing at me when the "It is now safe to turn off your computer" screen popped up. Every other computer in 1996 had a "soft" controlled power supply.
Furthermore, the computer supported 256 colors in 640x480 resolution. Windows 95 was so painfully slow, I downgraded it to Windows 3.11 workstation which put a lot less strain on the 32MB of RAM that I got for free from the library maintenance dept. mind you the 32 MB was MAXIMUM. 8MB per slot with four slots.

It eventually was trashed when I blew the proprietary power supply and found it could not be replaced.

It was my favorite PC


Sunday 22nd April 2007
Kia Purity (Kansas)

As there's no page for IBM/PS1. I thought this was IBM PS/1 at first (from the pictures) until I read closely and it said PS/2.

As it turns out that I guess that IBM had two versions of this machine and they didn't look all that different either. I have decent pictures of the PS/1 system which I no longer have.

However, I do have documentation for PS/1 from 1990... which indicates that PS/1 is younger than PS/2.


Saturday 10th February 2007
Aaron (Boston)

I don't think that the 8086-based version of the Model 25 was able to run OS/2--it was a strictly DOS machine. I do not know if there as ever an 80286-based version. The IBM Model 30 also came in an 8086 form, and then, later, an 80286 (The Model 30-286) which could presumably run OS/2. OS/2 was an operating system designed specifically for the 80286 (and better) chips, because it was multitasking and could take advantage of the extended memory and capabilities that the 286 offered and that the 8086 could not offer.


Wednesday 24th January 2007
D. Allen Mays (USA)

My Ibm Model 25 came straight off the showroom floor in 1987 with dual 1.44meg floppies, Dos 3.0, 2 button mouse, and an analog joystick. I had microsoft flight simulator, Ikari warriors, Thexder, and Pc paintbrush


Sunday 14th January 2007
Darrick Burch (USA)

I fondly remember using these machines in elementary school. They had no local storage apart from the built-in floppy drives. Instead, the machines would boot staright into our school's token ring network. Our network ran NetWare 3.12 and supported an IBM-built application called ICLAS (IBM Classroom LAN Administration System) that allowed teachers and the network administrator to control what applications and printers were available to students. Quite a spiffy system, really...

I seem to recall that the 320x200 MCGA mode was more or less compatible with VGA; I snuck in a few games on floppies that would use this mode. Some Sierra On-Line games would also support the MCGA mode, but they often only used 16 colors, probably as a workaround for the EGA mode that this machine does not support.

This isn't the only "all in one" system from IBM. IBM released several similar machines under the EduQuest name, though they were a little bigger physically. For one, the EduQuest machines had a full 14" display (I can't recall the Model 25's screen being any bigger than 12-13"). Oh, and those machines offered 386 and 486 processors, HDD and CD-ROM drives, and built-in ROM DOS, but I digress...


Friday 8th December 2006
Andrew Bellows (Earth)

I recieved one of these second hand from a private high school. It ran well for what I did with it (mainly text editing and Sid Meyer's Civilization in 256 color VGA mode). I had it running the 30MB HDD from the IBM 30 for a while until it inexplicably stopped functioning. It was tricky but I also had it using an Intel 8/16 Ethernet adapter to connect to my home network. The entire machine was functioning still with 2 3.5" 720k floppy drives the last I saw of it. Mine also had a headphone out port on the rear.





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